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Old 02-08-2009, 07:43 PM
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Who should use a proxy? NFusion

Now that we have this capability, before everyone jumps off the cliff and tries to use this we all should step back a minute and ask ourselves, "Do I need to run my nFusion through a proxy?". After all, Matchstick has told us that doing this may cause glitching and freezing simply due to using a poor quality proxy.

Before, many posts were made regarding the safety of using ***. Some folks worry their IP info is recorded at the *** server. Matchstick has already reassured us this doesn't happen. Other folks worry that their ISP is looking at IP connections going to the *** server directly, and that somehow this information will be tracked and they will be caught. Is this theoretically possible? Yes, though difficult. Is it likely? Perhaps more in Canada than in the US (since the laws are stricter), but that's just conjecture on my part. I really don't think any ISP bothers with what I would call "machine traffic"... traffic generated that is small in volume, yet not e-mail or surfing related.

Strictly speaking, a call to a proxy simply encapsulates the original request inside a proxy request... how else could the original request get to the destination if it isn't included in the packets? If 100% of a person's traffic were monitored, the encapsulated info could still be read. In theory, your ISP has the power to read EVERYTHING coming across THEIR connection from YOUR ACCOUNT. Does this happen? If your name is Bin Laden, probably. Otherwise, I doubt it. They have enough trouble keeping up with viruses and spam to worry about a mere 60 bytes of traffic from your account every 30 seconds or so.

You have to remember that proxies are intended to hide the source IP (you) from the destination IP (for example, a web page). They can also be used to bypass things like school or library internet filters. They were never intended to hide your IP information from your own connection, since that's who gives you your IP in the first place.

I think the main reason for using proxy with your nFusion is for folks on Clearwire or Bevcomm who can't get to the *** servers by any other means. They need to bypass restrictions implemented by their ISP just to get the nFusion to work correctly.

So should you use a proxy? Ask yourself these questions:

1. Do I want to hide my IP from the ***/Update servers? If YES, use a proxy.

2. Do I need to bypass my ISP's block on ***/Updates? If YES, use a proxy.

3. Do I want to hide my nFusion's *** traffic from my own ISP? If YES, you have a problem. Unfortunately a proxy won't 100% GUARANTEE your privacy from your own ISP. The only way to guarantee this is to steal internet access from someone else, say a neighbor's wireless network or from the Starbucks across the street. If you don't have this option, You can minimize your exposure by using a dial-up account for your nFusion. Yes, they're a pain to setup (they require a phone line, a dial-up account and either a PC with ICS or a dial-up router like wiflyer.com) but each time you connect you get a different IP address. That way the likelihood of your *** traffic being pinned to you is very low. You become a moving target. It's not perfect, but it's better than a broadband connection.

If you are sincerely worried about #3 and want a 100% guarantee, then perhaps you might want to reconsider owning an nFusion... it might not be for you.

Disclaimer: I've created this post based upon my own personal understanding of how the internet and proxies work. If I have provided erroneous information, I'm not too proud to be corrected.

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Only way to protect data is to have it encrypted prior to getting sent through ISP to Proxy.

No proxy = less protection
Proxy = protection
Encrypted data = best protection

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Old 02-09-2009, 08:46 AM
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Sorry, but I have to comment on this:

For all of the Nfusion owners that may be thinking of entertaining the idea of using proxies, I challenge you to do the following first before waisting your time and effort.

Learn about the different types of proxy:

Yes there are several types of proxy out there and Nfusion only uses one kind of proxy.

Then check the kind of proxy that Nfusion uses and then determine if using a proxy really masks you IP address the way you want it or not.



Please remember that when using proxies you may have to change the proxy every hour; Day , Week, Month or minute depending on how good of a proxy you find.

Basically your fingers will get numb trying proxies and the tV watching experience will be greatly reduced.

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