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Old 07-28-2009, 11:21 PM
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Just came in the house and checked out my switch drawer. I have a brand spanking new Chieta 4X1 switch even thought that is the least reliable switch that Chonki talked about that is all I have. Looks like I will be trying that out soon....
"Best brand by far for a good price is Chieta,and Spaun for high end...better be for the money." Chonki quote

maybe i'm reading this wrong...lol
its disqec he puts down

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sorry about that guys, I was working late again. How many lnb's do you have including your other dishes? Are any of them DP or DPP lnb's or just legacy's? And last, how many stb's do you intend on connecting to this setup? And you say even on 123 you 0 quality? If so, you can try to connect the coax from the motor directly to a linear port on the lnb, this will eliminate any switch issues. If you can peak it then, good , but if you still have no quality then try another fta sat that you know has a clear line of site....remember, the signal on an offset dish is coming from higher than it looks, so if there is a tree in the way but it is short, you may be able to get the signal from above the tree.

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Hi BG,
I only have the one LNB. It is a circular and linear all in one. That Inviacom clone that I was sold. I do not have any other dishes hooked up to the motorized dish. I can scan several sats from 119 to 61 and get very good quality, usually upper 70's and up. I am confident I am on the arc. It just looks like I didn't understand what switch that I needed. I thought an sw21 switch was the same thing as a 22Khz switch. I am going to put in the Chieta 4X1 that I have if the rain stops. It is supposed to rain till the weekend now so maybe it will be a day or so.
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22khz are kind of old school, but very reliable. They are not to be confused with a 2x1 disqec switch. These are not 22khz tone but rather a signal that tells the switch what to do. you can use the switches that came with your fta box, or a cheita will work too. If you use a sw21, you should have 22khz off and then just input your settings in the correct port for the diseqc. as a sw21 and diseqc are the same. Make sure you have DP or OSC off as well, it should be universal type or standard. I use port 1 for my circular and my port 2 for linear sats, and of course, I have the switch between my motor and lnb. It is a sw21 now because my diseqc went bad not to long ago, but I didn't have to change any settings because they are the same protocal. Have fun bro, it sounds like your so close. BG

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thank you so much i never used a sw21, same protocall . so you would set one to port 1 and one to port 2 under disqec?
very nice to know....any draw backs?

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actually no, in fact, because it is built for the dicknet tech's, it must be idiot proof and hence, bullet proof. the only thing to look out for is to make sure that it is not a dp21, it must be a legacy 21. A dp21 is more rare, but it is meant for bandstacked lnb's....meaning an lnb that takes all the left hand pol. and stacks those freqs on top of the right hands. In legacy, (and all other standard lnb's) if the box wants to see left hand (or vertical) it asks for that only by sending a certain voltage to the lnb, and when the box wants to see right hand (or horizontal tp's) it sends another voltage. So in this system, your coax only carries from 950-1250 mhz of channels, but DP or bandstacked lnb's take both left and right and stacks them on top of the other, so now your cable needs to carry 950-1550 mhz of channels (hence the rg5.9 to now rg6 conversion). So if it is a sw21 for dp, it may not pass those voltages to the lnb like a legacy sw21 does. That is the basics of it however, it is a little more technical than that. Hope this helps you understand the sw21 a little better, but when it all comes down to it, only you can tell if it will work right for your installation. As with all sat equipment, some stuff works great for some, and may not work worth a sh*t for others. Later bud. BG

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22khz are kind of old school, but very reliable. They are not to be confused with a 2x1 disqec switch. These are not 22khz tone but rather a signal that tells the switch what to do. you can use the switches that came with your fta box, or a cheita will work too. If you use a sw21, you should have 22khz off and then just input your settings in the correct port for the diseqc. as a sw21 and diseqc are the same. Make sure you have DP or OSC off as well, it should be universal type or standard. I use port 1 for my circular and my port 2 for linear sats, and of course, I have the switch between my motor and lnb. It is a sw21 now because my diseqc went bad not to long ago, but I didn't have to change any settings because they are the same protocal. Have fun bro, it sounds like your so close. BG
So if I understand this correctly the sw21 will work just as well as the Chieta. I have the circular part of the LNB set up on sw21 dish 1 and the linear set up on sw21 dish 2. When I go to an FTA sat I set the sw21 dish 2 up in the settings for that particular sat and when I got to a circular sat I set my settings to sw21 dish 1. IF this is correct then I will leave the sw21 switch in place. I think I will take my NFusion out here and try it to see what I can pick up. I am testing with a VS Ultra just to see if I can scan in any sats even though I know that I can't watch them with the N# not being opened up yet.
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BG,correct me if i'm wrong on the settings for BB setup. this for me as well as BB i want to make sure i'm reading this correct. thanks

satellite: 123w
lnb power: on
lnb type: universal/ single
lnb frequency: 10750
Transponder:
22Khz: off
diseqc: port 1 (circular)
motor: enabled
legacy switch: none

if this will work, BB may avoid going back up on the roof.

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THATS WHAT I HAVE. You may have to play with the tp freqs too, sometimes quality is a matter of adjusting the freq two ticks up or down, play with each sat and once you get it.....WRITE IT DOWN!. I did not right down my settings so if i run into a situation that requires a fact. dflt. its back to the drawing board for me. But beleive me, next time I will write them down.

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so are up yet?

BG thanks for your reply,
Now BB are you up and working yet?

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