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Old 05-07-2009, 07:29 AM
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I want my Money back!!!

This is getting redicular.... I just pay $89.00 for nothing, I want my money back before I will contact my Attorney.
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Old 05-07-2009, 07:40 AM
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now thats a good one hehehe, you are going to contact your attorney because you can't steal tv lol, by all means please do so
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LMAO!! hell i look at it this way the first day i hooked my box up i got my money back.
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.all a clitter and ready for action.......can almost smell the weekend in the air.....
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Ecm Info

With every ECM there is always a fair bit of misinformation about regarding the �new� encryption techniques used, and how it may portend the death of FTA.

With the present difficulties, for instance, the following items of interest have been repeated around the net on various sites:

* This ECM is specifically targeted at FTA
* Multiple MAP call are being used
* A dynamic code is being used
* There is a new timer function

This ECM is specifically targeted at FTA

This is likely true! Card based hacks like plastic, card-sharing, and IKS (Internet Key Sharing, another form of card sharing) access video encryption differently than the emu in FTA firmware. Card solutions simply send encrypted VPID (video packets) to the descrambler chip where the included CW (control word) packets are sent right away to the CAM (conditional access module/card), the answer is sent back and then applied to the video packet. The actual CAM values, apart from definitions and order of the CW gathering commands (i.e., MAP calls) need not be known, as it is all done automatically when requests are sent to the card. FTA firmware on the other hand must know the precise CAM locations and thus order and routine of MAP calls, and this has to be patched into each bin; when this changes a new bin is required where relevant portions of the CAM are emulated.

Multiple MAP calls are being used

This is true, however this is nothing new either. Providers routinely use at least 4 or 5 MAP calls at any given time. MAP calls are intense arithmetic equations that request CWs from the CAM to be sent back to the descrambler. We now have 4e and 4d; there are others in play, but apparently these particular ones are the difficulties (i.e., CAM location unknown).

A dynamic code is being used

�Dynamic� implies changing according to some input. It sounds scary, like a mutating virus, lol. In actuality, �dynamic� is little different that �random� at the level of intense mathematics as the functions and outputs are extremely difficult or impossible to be predicted. By definition, control words are random numbers.

There is a new timer function

Each channel uses different CWs, and this is how now for instance some locals may be viewable and other pay channels remain scrambled. CWs change every few minutes, and this in itself is as secure as practically can be: even an NSA super-cryto computer could not solve an 8-byte algorithm in 2 minutes, lol. CWs have always changed this fast, and all TV providers, even cable, use the same system.

So what is going on?

Nothing radically new, likely. Coders are not crytologists, and even if they were, it would be senseless to attempt decryption on something that changes as quickly as CWs, as mentioned above. And neither can card data be read with any apparent ease (remember all the baloney a year ago about peeling the cards and reading with an electron microscope, hahahahaha, if you believed that one, well, I have some bog land you may be interested in�.). Some CAM locations are known, some are not. ALL of the MAP calls CW answers are currently in the cards and are not changeable, this requires a card swap. What can be changed are the specific MAP calls and their order. These can be read and defined, and even used for card hacking (why IKS is up and running), but FTA is a different story, as mentioned.

Coders must be given specific CAM locations which can be patched into or emulated for FTA binary files. Saying a bin has the �full emu� is ridiculous, as it can�t by sheer size limitations, as it would have to run in non-decompressed format. What is needed is a MAP map, as it were, lol. Or at least someone to give directions, like a navigator.

Most of this information is purchased rather than hacked, at least initially. When a group says they have the �full emu�, what should be understood is that they have access to the information, and it may be purchased as a service over a period of time. This is rather like calling up customer service plan: you call to say your widget isn�t working, and being told to press buttons 1, 2, 3, then A, B, C in that order, you do, it works, but you have no idea why. It seems Viewsat had an arrangement like this after MAP57, they bought a 1 year plan, lol. Others can purchase information on a one-off basis. Or once a bin is released, the bin can be dumped and reverse engineered for patching to different boxes, but this takes a little extra time.
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Hey coolsat 7000 guy i need the name of attorney so i can sue the guy i punched for hurting my hand and also would like to sue DN for going to N3 in the first place. Awesome post im almost died laughing, what a tool!
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Talking Another swine flu victim

He is confused This guy that wants HIS money back for not being able to steal tv, must have the swine flu too. He should be contacting his doctorHA HA HA

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I agree, thats like me saying I am going to sue dic for all the mental anguish/stress and pain & suffering I go through every time they scramble my box/channels or the physical stress I have gone through since they sent all porn to n3. LOL Sorry dude but you had this one coming. Hey Mr. Big Blade at least he made us laugh. I hear laughing is really great therapy.
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what an idiot...It's not this site fault you invested in coolsat. Get another FTA and get better support. I'm getting annoyed at all the whinning. Wait for the new bin or go pay for the premium channels simple instructions. Or take your next pay check and get a reciever with better support.....Enough already people coolsat is slow and fading...Thats the reality. The guys here are very accomodating and we appreciate them. I have a coolsat 4 and 6 im not whining cause i know what i got.....enough already coolsat owners!(Not all but some)
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